Well, a couple of hours ago, (New Years Eve), my wife ended up in a cold bath again, so I went down and checked and this time it was the 4 flash code. honeywell wv8840b1109 manual honeywell wv8840b1109 manual Pmi reliance supply electric power partcrib please. I do not think you have the same honeywell control that this website is discussing, there is no power switch or power cord. Only 18 month old water heater and I too had the four flashes of death, with working pilot light. I know I did this while trying to figure out why no hot water. Thanks E. Update : Tried all the reset methods and none worked for me for the white light control valve. You will need two clip leads about 2 feet long each(like from Radio Shack I used a black lead for negative (-) and red lead for positive(+)) and be able to clip onto a 1.5 volt battery (I used a weak rechargeable battery with tabs ( you only need about .5 volt DC actually). I also flushed the tank out twice by turning the supply on with the drain open. For more information forwardthinking.honeywell.com Home and Building Technologies 1985 Douglas Drive North Golden Valley, MN 55422 . Oh, I see. I saw some white crystals come out but not that bad. Make sure the thermostat wires are plugged in to the top of the board. It may show now the normal 1 code or it may show a 7 or maybe a 2. I told them I had four flashes and the serial number. Who came up with the dumbass design that when you turn the dial to a normal, albeit high, position, it breaks the water heater? From this thread it is not true that the 4 flash fault is fatal. Taking out the circuit board and shorting across the pins (on back side of board) of what I believe is a capacitor**, worked to get the 7 flashes and then unit would light. I did follow the advise of flushing the tank. Nothing else worked for me. What a cluster outfit. Finally this past week it was in the error mode and stayed there. I am calling the plumber who installed it. Falcon Edge Self-Retracting Lifelines. Honeywell WV8840B1109 Gas Water Heater Control Valve. Thank you for your terrific post. ! coming from me! Add Sears to Lowes of where not to buy a product.heres, what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. I did that search but you Can Not find just the circuit board. Would appreciate any info on fixing the WHITE Light Gas valve. Anyways DBs method DOES WORK! The water heater is a Kenmore and I called Sears but they only wanted to send out a service worker for $79/$90 to diagnosis the water heater although I explained numberous times that the water heater is OK It is the controller that failed. Honeywell stinks & has caused lots of trouble for me. Now the light changed from flashing 4 times to flashing 7 times. Count the number of flashes and look it up in the manual. 5: Wait for the status light to start to blink (Mine alternated between 4 blinks and 5 blinks). Taking your screwdriver and hold it against the upper right pin and the lower pin for about 3 seconds. Untwist wires and relight pilot. But they knew nothing about that. When the pilot is lit, it will only glow blue, and not look this intense. Something a major of an appliance like this cant barely go a year without working. Working fine. This seems like a part that needs to be recalled and a Class Action Lawsuit filed. The result: Make sure all the wires are connected, turn on the gas and follow the steps in your water heater owners manual to relight the pilot light. I had the local utility company come check it and the inlet pressure was right on the money. Just one stinking notch! You dont need the battery at all. I hope it helps someone. We really need to tell the government to BUTT OUT of our lives, Big Brother wants to be my mommy and save me from myself. I am deeply in the debt of David Boone and would offer to buy you lunch should we ever meet. Atleast it did for me. The previous water-heater was never flushed in its 20 year life (the tank started leaking). https://www.flickr.com/photos/86570218@N06/17486404251. It took right off and has been working fine. I have not had hot water since Thursday night. Thanks. I was getting the 8-3 flashing code which said to replace the Gas Control Valve. This time they are sending me a new gas valve for free overnight. It is sad to see big companies are not really care about the quality and safety of the consumers. BUT, the adapter for the wire harness only goes into the new board one way. If it does not start up on its own after the shutdown, then you may have to reconnect the battery to the right top pin and go through the above procedure again and it will shutdown again. Only 1 day without hot water thanks to you. NOTE: Only do this if youre sure that the problem that caused the overheating has been corrected. They charged me $30 to ship a new white light control valve and i installed it. DONT BUY THEM. There is also a little white switch in the middle with wires attached on each side of the thermocoupler that is a reset button. Apparently the probe was too sensitive to heat caused by sediment build up. The Right top Pin is the main gas valve. Page bookmarked! Got the ominous 4 flash a couple days ago after turning heat up too high. Im not certain it works in all cases, but if it does, youre all set to go. Far out. I guess Water heaters are now interactive devices requiring yearly maintenance. The wires for the main burner valve solenoid had not broken. Id rather spend money at some local cage, or boxing matches here in So. No, they want to sell you the whole valve, of course. Thank goodness I found this site. I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. Quality was very bad. If you need to, stick the screwdriver in from below to lever them loose. Thanks for the information and comments it help me restart my waterheated. Last one. I turned the knob to just the Hot setting and it fired up ! I understand that the Honeywell product is in recall. Put the cover back on temporarily with the connector still disconnected. There is a thermo-breaker in series with the thermopile attached to the plate opposite the sight window that may need to be reset or could be bad just another thought. I didnt use a battery and just jumped upper left and upper right pegs. I am now an expert at gas valves. Genius. Any suggestions? How to un-fault a controller I have a water heater only 13 months old and it is not working. So is there now way to reset the white light model? I suspect that shorting the posts is the way the Sears tech did it the first time. save delay . An extremely tense situation with 2 women in the house, Monday morning (Wife and daughter) and no hot water was avoided by the above fix. 40 gal, nat gas, no external attachments. The Jaccuzi is available at Lowes. Lit right up. I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. The pilot on my waterheater went out over night. Cost to replace Honeywell Water Heater Wv880b1309 0 Solutions The pilot light went out and we gave not been able 3: Snap the cover back onto the heater (so you can light the pilot-light). If the heating chamber gets too hot, the button pops out and the pilot will never light until you push it back in. Just plug the starter lead back into the connector to the ignitor and place the back (brass colored) end of the starter against a metal part of the water heater. Thank you David Boone for your excellent instructions in your, How to un-fault a controller post. If no updates this worked for me. shut off the pilot and reconnect the 3 wire plug and but the cover back on. If youre ever in Fort Wayne Indiana, Ill treat you to a steak dinner/sushi/(or your preference)! Its two pins go through the board. Reviews are especially welcome. my water heater pilot light went out. These Honeywell gas controls include a manual gas valve, safety shutoff, single millivoltage automatic operator, and pressure regulator, pilot gas filter and flow adjustment, pressure tapping, and thermocouple connector. When I put it back in it blinked 7 times. . So are you saying that you got yours from the MFR? After just a couple of minutes the code changed to 1 and now I have hot water. I didnt think it would work, live and learn. My storyAfter two years my Honeywell WV8860B1310 gas control valve failed. reattach the front cover with the wires still unplugged and light your pilot. There is no need to completely remove the board from the plastic control valve cover. Two months later I drained out about 5-8 gallons, saw minimal sediment. step by step please for dummies. I did the jumper wire and at least heated enough water for my wife and I to shower .what to replace it with ??? I cant believe this actually worked!!! Light the pilot. I want to send you a gift..paypal?? Although, it wouldnt hurt to turn the gas off at the water heater line by twisting the valve into the horizontal position. Well the throw away attitude has caught up with water heaters. I have the same set up as rdarnitall on 31 December 2014 at 7:28 pm and I just wanted to say thanks for that reset procedure, it worked for me. Other suggestions? Could someone make a diagram or snap a pic and circle what posts to jumper? Jolie, even you can do this. Good luck, and be sure to write Whirlpool and tell them their tank design valve is a piece of crap. A plumber I know told me he has replaced dozens of these exact same units. Again, because Im somewhat inexperienced at this stuff, I found that there is a different teflon tape used for Gas than in plumbing. New valve on the way from Whirlpool. Good to know! Great just what I needed, obviously the plumber who installed the WH did not change the 30 yr old shut off valve at the same time! The water heater would not work properly right out of the box. The light started the all is good single blink and the furnace fired up. Its an excellent description, and if you dont already have the new valve, I suggest you try that first. Error clears. The same issues and the dreaded 4 flashes of death. For anyone who encounters valve control failure, as long as the problem relates to this particular Honeywell valve controller model (mine was model NU50T61-403), I suggest to go straight to David Boones instruction in this thread for resetting the fault. Thanks again. If I dont update this entry, assume it is (for now). I will clean up the old unit when removed and keep as spare. I found the most reliable one is to install the parts without the cover and short the top two pins that go to the pilot light (left) and the main burner (right) and running it for a while. Plus the cost of the above repairs. Fix Bypass with a 15k, 2 watt resistor, and no problem. They have a manual shut off. A good business would be to offer a replacement board that has been restored for use to customers blessed with this hunk of junk! THANKS & GOD BLESS. Most Honeywell water heaters with electric gas valves need just 12 volts for the valve to work. About to enter the fray and attempt the 4-blink DIY fix solution. DO NOT buy a water heater from Lowes. i did just what you described and my water heater is finally on. Followed your procedure to a T. I called GE because Honeywell said to. Do this at work sometimes before shipping a job we tested with a charged capacitor. I opened the cover again, left everything plugged in, took a piece of speaker wire with the plastic off of the ends, and held the wire ends to the top left pin and the top right pin for a few seconds. Mine is the 1109 and has no posts. I called toll-free number on side of tank (877-817-6750), described my issue and gave a serial number. Tyler, I will be buying a copy of your book to show support for you hosting this thread and helping to save people a LOT of $$. will light up but is not, Honeywell 24v waterheater. If you cant get the pilot lit, the thermopile that generates the .75 volt power to the controller will not be generating any power either. Gas and Flame Detection. Its been a week since I reset the valve and everything seems to be working fine and I did not drain the tank. This crap adds $15,000+ to our new automobiles. First Responder. This item: WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 $429.99 Fixitshop Water Heater Pilot Assembely Includes Pilot Thermocouple and Tubing Natural 24" $14.99 Water Heater Pilot Assembely Includes Pilot Thermocouple and Tubing LP Propane $14.99 Product information Technical Details Additional Information Thanks for the site.. Guys, this is a great post Thanks I FIXED IT but, make it EASY FOR DUMMIES after spending hours reading this I FOUND the EASIEST WAY to fix the 4 blink issue Just lit the pilot take out the plastic cover with the pilot on, do not disconnect any cords, use aflat-bladed screwdriver. just short (touch) the top 2 left pins( there is a set of 4 pins together use the 2 on the left) and the led light will go off and the pilot will shut off too, put the plastic cover back to the unit and DONE!! You need to drain the tank completely because the valve sensor is about one inch diameter probe that screws into the side of the tank from the back of the valve. Operating Range: 0 to 150 F (-18 to 66 C)*, *Valve will operate at 0F (-18C) but valve, characteristics can not be guaranteed until, Storage Range: -40 to 150 F (-40 to 66 C), Humidity: 95% non-condensing at 104 F (40 C), This device is certified by Canadian Standards. Thanks guys!!! Is the designer still alive? oops I pressed the wrong key: not 170, but 70 degrees. The battery trick worked for me. I cant think of how many brands of water heaters use the same honeywell gas valve. Get it from e-bay, just look at picture to make sure it only has red & white wires to the right and NOwire to left side under COM.. Got the same 4 blinking lights Saturday . heres what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. Why wont the cops shut Whirlpool down? OMG!! Will keep this for next year when it breaks again. As I mention in the article, in bold red text, you have to make sure whatever caused the overheat is also fixed. If that didnt work, or if you already have the new valve and prefer the slightly simpler approach, proceed as follows. It did not need to be reset (zero resistance across the terminals). The unit will go to 7 blinks initially, but the burners will kick on and after a bit will revert to 1 blink every few seconds (normal operation). Thanks for the info. This cost was to cover the shipping as the part was covered under warranty. Keith, the manual says 7 flashes means Gas Control electronic fault I am getting NO Flash from the led light. Abner, I will handle your questions in my own order. NEVER TO BE PURCHASED AGAIN. After the pilot heats the thermopile, and the LED blinks, I released the Red knob but the pilot would not stay on. Kenmore water heater purchased at OSH in 2012. Gas & Electric Water Heaters & Tankless Models | A. O. Smith Should save this to a word fileBut hopefully I wont ever need them again..My water heater is 2 years old and has a 6 year warranty on parts..I called Monday morning and spoke to a Johnathon (real nice fella) and he shipped me the whole thermostat assembly. ** sorry, I took no pictures; the capacitor is round, about 1/2 diameter, about 1/2 tall, dark color. The most I have had to do this is twice before the fault cleared. the wife is happy again. The two upper pins of V push out of the cover and have doughnut shaped gaskets to seal gases. On Thursday plubmer came over to install the worthless Whirlpool 40 gallon piece of junk water heater. I dont have faith in this product and may need your instructions at a later date. But, I didnt know that the new board (white light) had been fixed so it seemingly cant be reset So I think I just screwed myself trying to cut corners and buy a few extra days. It is . You will now need to restart the Pilot as before. Unscrew one screw at the bottom of the gas valve. They may just reset it, then charge again for the next time it needs resetting. That is the valve mechanism. I will never buy anything from Kenmore or Honeywell! Mwa-ha-ha-ha! followed your instructions for shorting the 2 pins and re-light worked just like you said. After less than 4 yrs of having the Whirlpool water heater, I got 4 flashes. 7:Snap the cover back on and light the pilot light again. However, I started getting a 5-flash code (water temperature sensor failure) shortly after install. I fitted the WH with a cheap garden hose when I installed it last year and ran the hose permanently to outdoors for convenience. i am walking thru all theses stepsworking on the circuit board nowdrained refilled and this is last effort before callingcircuit board battery?? It is likely a Super Cap of 1 farad or more used for short term memory retention. SUPER FIX< SUPER POST. The led light will go off and the pilot will shut off as well. Glad you got it back going. Note the LED flash sequence. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water 2000 coachman catalina water heater rv forum, The lp switch water heater 2000 coachmen [], [] Th106 honeywell aube th106 7 day programmable line, Comments 7 day programmable line volt thermostat electric heating: bought level house. Even though there are 4 higher settings! My old controller has a red blinking LED that I can reset. I just found this article. Much obliged. The first continues the 4-blinks after multiple reset attempts. The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. Found three capacitors (bigger one in the middle and the other two towards one of the corners, each is mainly silver with a black small/minor segment ) and shorted all three, replaced unit and relit the pilot light, but 4 flashes still the problem. Last December, I was forced to replace the valve after I got the four flashes. I woke up on a Saturday morning to this issue and used your Fault Clear instructions and they WORKED! Because, when they shop at Lowes (and other DIY stores), people dont always, every time, ask them, You carry repair parts for this, right? THIS METHOD WORKS!!! One morning I woke up to find no lights on the Gas Valve panel. This may be rather new as Honeywell does not even have a WV8840C listed yet (or it may be an OEM spec valve which is proprietary and not published. While you have the old valve out, be sure to probe inside to see if you have gunk/sediment and/or crystals/salts. I replaced the Assy Unit thermocouple with the pilot lightNOW it flashes 7 times with 3 second pause. I even suspect there is a simpler method to do it than the one Ill now detail. When the circuit board in the gas valve detects the water-too-hot situation, it writes something into static memory in one of its chips, and the valve will never work again unless you can manage to reset it as described below. Maybe a result of their desire to protect themselves against scald claims and the programmers misunderstanding of high hot might have to be to deliver hot at a faucet that is 75 feet from the tank and serviced by uninsulated lines? smith), the gas valve went bad so I had to replace it. The older controllers will reset this way. The bottom pin is ground ((-) on the battery)Connect the (-) negative of the battery there with a clip lead. This procedure worked like a charm. While most of it looks similar, I think the subtle differences incorporate a long(er) term fix. Just lit the pilot again and set the temperature!! My tank is fed solar preheated water, and so far, that water has been warm enough that the main propane burner has never fired with the thermostat set to LOW, so I was just curious. Voltage Minimum: 350 mV dc, open circuit. Im just saying that you dont have to install the whole valve, but can just swap out the parts you need to make the old one work again. Turns out painting and cleaning the basement tripped a code 7 flashes. Super easy. upstairs. burners are on. The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. As the days moved on, it continued happening more frequently and each time the red 5-flash error condition persisted longer and longer before resetting itself. Worked like a charm! No brown or other weird looking water. detected. That doesnt sound to me like a physical problem with the valves connection to the gas line, so I see no reason the Frankenvalve operation wouldnt work here also. Thank you Tyler and all the responses. Honeywell Water Heater WV8840B1109 0 Solutions WATER HEATER MANUAL Honeywell Water Heater Wv8840b5068 0 Solutions pilot light blink 4 times every 3 seconds says ove Honeywell Water Heater Gas Water Heater 1 Solutions Not working. After I reconnected got 7 flashes instead of 4 flashes and the gas valve opened properly. Think Ill leave my old one on till it goes out again then replace with new one. Feeling clean & grateful for hot water! When utilities came to check gas pressure, my gas was shut off and meter opened for half hour or so. I tried to call Honeywell just to ask and they wont give me any info because I didnt have the model number on me. Dont take this for granted, make sure you do your part of manufacturers suggested periodic maintenance such as tank drainage, Anode rod inspection, etc to prevent future faults. Picture:here. Honeywell Wv8840B1158 Manual. A link in your article would have been nice. Im 67, and have somehow managed not to blow myself up without a FV sensor by not keeping flammable stuff by open flames, like water heaters and furnaces. I had to do it 2 times, but it is now making hot water again. However, the length and duration of self-correcting fault conditions rapidly grew more frequent and longer over a matter of days. Heater is only 7 months old. The Thermopile already supplies the current necessary to open the gas valve! Awesome articles you post on your blog, i have shared this article on my facebook. So either the thermostat is faulty, or somehow theres something preventing heat transfer from the heating chamber and the water in the tank. This happened again a day or 2 later and again, after a short while, the status led reverted back from the 5-flash red to the 1-flash blue. 1: Remove the cover (it just snaps on & off with out tools on mine), 2: Unplug the three wire connector on the top-back of the circuit-board (no need to remove it from the cover so no tools required). I was told to flush the water heater 2xs a year with vinegar to remove sediment, which i did have ALOT..Thanks. The gas valve is a Honeywell WV8840C1406, red led which changes to blue, 1 flash, when everything is working right. Bioluminescent Reindeer and the Value of Diversity. I bought a Rheem water heater from Home Depot, it had this Honeywell valve on it. water heater wv8840n5068 0 solutions can i get a manual for a honeywell product #wv8840 honeywell water heater wv8840b1109 0 solutions water heater manual honeywell water heater wv8840b5068 0 solutions pilot light blink 4 times every 3 . Troubleshooting (just to make sure it wasnt the thermal switch or something) I took the board only out of the new valve they sent and put it on there. Now I have two fail in 27 months. The only material needed is one short jumper or piece of wire. * honeywell gas valve water, Executive summary: detected water hot event, gas valve work reset . Search the page for How to un-fault a controller. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water [], [] How turn water main cutoff valve , In event main water valve fails, final backstop operate shut water house: main water valve street.. How to Turn Off Your Water Using the Main Cutoff Valve on 411 plumb: &p valve water heater leaking, Learn determine &p valve water heater leaking fix leaking &p valve.. 411 Plumb: The T&P Valve On My Water Heater Is LeakingResetting #$%@!! In case you havent seen one before, its called a flat-bladed screwdriver.. Next day shipping for 10 bucks? NOW MY WIFE WILL THINK IM SOMEONE IMPORTANT. Thank you for the excellent instructions, they worked on the first try. Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Honeywell RTH6580WF Wi-Fi 7 Resetting #$%@!! Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. It installed easily. This time I turned to this forum. I called my father-in-law and told him about it, he is a plumber and replaces this kind of valves all the time but he said he has never seen one that flashes any codes other than normal right out of the box Go figure!!! Tonight I came home to the 4 blink code again No problem Ill just reset it one more time to get us through showers tonight and replace it tomorrow. Whirlpool owners are fortunate that the company is sending them replacement valves. I called Whirlpool customer service, got the replacement valve for $30 cost of the shipment. He said do not put the setting any higher than the HOT setting. I just ran enough hot water out to get it to call for heat again and it lit fine on its own. Say, Im going to rip you open, you dirty so-and-so. See whether the light goes back to its regular one-blink mode in response to this threat. Yes my 20 month old envirotemp gas water (purchased from lowes) heater quit and is displaying 4 flashes of death . This may help all. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. Thanks so much. Still no flashes.) COPY OF Honeywell Water Heater Gas Valve Instruction/ Spec. So thanks to commenters earlier, before, and above. Forgot to add one more important bit of informationI do not have any error codes, the red light blinks for standby mode and shows a heartbeat while the pilot light is on and continues despite the burner failing to ignite. WT8840 controls provide direct replacement, Pressure Regulator: The outlet pressure regulator, See appliance rating plate for inlet pressure range, 0.5 PSI (14.0 in. Could only see me in the eveningReading about what you guys have done. 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